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Rilakkuma's avatar

Thank you again for the quality writeup. Do we know if the FY25 guidance includes alternatives (oral and liraglutide), or is excluding all post-Q1 weight loss drugs completely?

The Few Bets That Matter's avatar

It does. It includes everything they can & will comercialized legally through FY25. Orale, semaglutide & probably some expectation of their liraglutide.

Rilakkuma's avatar

Got it, thanks. Really not a bad growth rate!

The Few Bets That Matter's avatar

As shared no, far from it. But the market doesn't believe it apparently...

Nik's avatar

how did you get $25 FV for Hims? also, how did you calculate PES and PS in two tables in your valuation thesis

The Few Bets That Matter's avatar

FV to me means the price at which I buy or the average price I would not go above if I have to accumulate. It isn't really FV like you can read on other write ups. It's really a buying price including margin of safety.

As to how, the method is decribed here.

https://wealthyreadings.substack.com/p/investing-how-and-why

PES & PS are forward ratios, based on forward revenues & income multiplied by forward shares counts. And why, it is because I said some time ago I was focusing on buying Hims between x2 & x3 F.P/S, which is around $25 based on actual guidance.

Alex Koch's avatar

Another great article